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This is something I did not want to wake up to. I've been thinking this over, read every shout, and have looked over what LIMITED feedback I got. So to both Ryli and Z, thank you for letting me know about this. The reason I am partly blaming the staff is that this was 100% avoidable and preventable. This is unreasonable and quite honest plain ****. The staff is there to regulate and prevent things like this from happening. If I was online, anyone involved "intensifying the fire" would have been banned from the shoutbox. At one point someone had said that Naked Crook has "immunity" here because of me. If someone is banned either on the shoutbox or the website, I want evidence. Last night, I would have kicked him off as well. I need a staff that will put there foot down and NOT SHOW BIASED OPINIONS WHEN A CONFLICT OCCURS. Call me a hypocrite because of the thread conversation earlier that day, fine. I don't give a ****. Yeah, I was defending Naked Crook for his opinion, however, I show sympathy that it was in the wrong topic/forum. Secondly, Naked Crook has no immunity. He's a member of Age of War. Yes, I will ask a lot of questions because he is considered a favorite, however, if you take a screenshot and show it to me, or copy and paste the archives or show me something that proves to me why you did it, then I will be far more understanding. In addition, if a staff member feels that thread/conversation should be made in the staff section, then do it. It's there for a reason. We, as the whole unit of "the Staff", need to improve ourselves.
Another topic I want to address is favoritism. This needs to end, now, and that includes mine as well. Favoritism clouds an individual's judgment making them not as effective and FAIR as they should be. Again, I've outlined my favoritism above with Naked Crook. But the others with all of you needs to cease as well.
Additionally, I will go over Midna's "farewell" thread. This seems to be the catalyst to the whole shoutbox ordeal. In short, if all of you haven't read it, Midna said she was leaving because she hit a guy in the face, and at that point, she didn't divulge a detailed "why". In turn, Naked Crook, being the realist he is, points out that she should hope there are no criminal repercussions. However, this seemed to have clearly bothered several members because he was pointing out the, well, obvious. I received mixed feedback on this thread, especially since I was at work. However, not once, did I read that he attacked her. He used logic and the details he knows of Midna to base a logical conclusion. And before you tell me that he said she has anger problems let me ask you: "Really? Are you telling me she doesn't?" This thread wouldn't exist if she didn't. All of you know that as well as I do, he didn't attack her, he pointed out a flaw in her good nature. However, this thread escalated because some of you felt that you need to check such things out with me. You don't at all. If a topic gets out of hand, lock it, delete posts, do whatever you have to (within a reasonable limit) to prevent arguments and to keep the peace. Plain and simple.
But now I turn to look at the actual conversation, if you want to call it that. I will break it down by member.
MIDNA: Here's where I will start back to when Zeke and Midna first started talking. First saying Naked Crook was mean and then saying he was attacking her in the aforementioned thread. I've outlined where I am looking at this. She also holds grudges, and I've personally witnessed fights start because of her grudges, as in this case. In addition, I feel she's being over dramatic about the thread. This in turn led to emotional and clouded judgment from Zeke.
ZEKE: This is where I'm going to start cracking harder on this. I can understand favorites, but this is now getting out of hand. I can also understand that a comment or statement can be aggravating, but you're a little out of line with the personal attachment. Please keep this in check, alright? You are the original founder of Age of War, but you are, like everyone else, subject to rules, including myself.
BLENDERCAT: Well this should be a no brainer. Majority of us have expressed distaste for him about this and there's still an active thread about his banning. He is curious, but he is also nosey about it. He, I feel, is the he's still (although he won't admit it) is still holding a grudge against Naked Crook for his own behavior on TNO. I feel that his remark: "Here's some advice- pay no attention to NC. Unless it's important." is the spark for this. In my opinion, he blew his last chance with this. In addition, his creepy remarks about watching Ammy is just wrong, being playful or not.
NAKED CROOK: Now this where I feel the opinions will differ, but I'll do my best to stay objective and present only the facts. Many of you feel he's holding grudges, and I've never known him to do so, ever. I've personally found him to be fair. That's a big word to a lot of us it seems, but here's the definition: "free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice". In other words, that means weighing all options and picking one that feels the most appropriate to the situation, the GOOD and the BAD and still being unbiased. So now there's a difference between being a realist and being fair. Relating to the thread above, he was being realistic, but in addition, it's a fair assumption. At the time, assault is a crime. He wasn't wrong in his opinion nor overbearing. However, I feel there are some faults involved too, the first one is that he's got a slight narcissistic side. He's an admin of a fairly popular website, a game modder, coder, etc., a web designer and coder, and manages school and a daytime job. In some sense, he's accomplished and has a right to be, however, last night was not the right time for it with the statement "BC...everything I say is important". In addition, his next shout showed that he said some of the members want Blender gone. Which is, again, uncalled for.
MIDNA (again): This is to outline her behavior in the actual argument. First is the sudden spontaneity of swearing. She is one of the reasons I enabled the censor. She started to swear for no reason at all and additionally attacking both Naked Crook and later, Cubanpete who was only being the middle ground.
ZEKE (again): It is by this point that Zeke should have banned both Naked Crook and Midna from the shoutbox but didn't, and this is where I have the big problem.
MIDNA: Her behavior becomes tamed whenever Zeke says something, however, this isn't right. She should always behave herself instead of listening to one person like she's a personal servant.
Z64: Now I'm including Z, because my name got brought up. I want to again, point out that Naked Crook does not have immunity. He may be one of my favorites, but he's just as equal as anyone else here. It might be true that I will get upset, but I tend to keep a logical mindset when listening to someone who has evidence of why.
From here, the conversation calms down however, the dialogue between Naked Crook and Midna starts to show a little bit of bonding, but in a twisted point of view. They simply express their opinions of each other as civilized adults. The conversation is ended with Z saying "cease fire".
Now what's my opinion on this? I'm still very angry I wake up to see this. However, Blender's statement should be the last straw and I feel Midna should have some serious repercussions. As for Naked Crook, this is his first serious matter (and I'm counting the thread too). I feel he too should be punished with a few days out of the shoutbox. But I'll let everyone express their opinions now and what should happen to the parties involved.
Another topic I want to address is favoritism. This needs to end, now, and that includes mine as well. Favoritism clouds an individual's judgment making them not as effective and FAIR as they should be. Again, I've outlined my favoritism above with Naked Crook. But the others with all of you needs to cease as well.
Additionally, I will go over Midna's "farewell" thread. This seems to be the catalyst to the whole shoutbox ordeal. In short, if all of you haven't read it, Midna said she was leaving because she hit a guy in the face, and at that point, she didn't divulge a detailed "why". In turn, Naked Crook, being the realist he is, points out that she should hope there are no criminal repercussions. However, this seemed to have clearly bothered several members because he was pointing out the, well, obvious. I received mixed feedback on this thread, especially since I was at work. However, not once, did I read that he attacked her. He used logic and the details he knows of Midna to base a logical conclusion. And before you tell me that he said she has anger problems let me ask you: "Really? Are you telling me she doesn't?" This thread wouldn't exist if she didn't. All of you know that as well as I do, he didn't attack her, he pointed out a flaw in her good nature. However, this thread escalated because some of you felt that you need to check such things out with me. You don't at all. If a topic gets out of hand, lock it, delete posts, do whatever you have to (within a reasonable limit) to prevent arguments and to keep the peace. Plain and simple.
But now I turn to look at the actual conversation, if you want to call it that. I will break it down by member.
MIDNA: Here's where I will start back to when Zeke and Midna first started talking. First saying Naked Crook was mean and then saying he was attacking her in the aforementioned thread. I've outlined where I am looking at this. She also holds grudges, and I've personally witnessed fights start because of her grudges, as in this case. In addition, I feel she's being over dramatic about the thread. This in turn led to emotional and clouded judgment from Zeke.
ZEKE: This is where I'm going to start cracking harder on this. I can understand favorites, but this is now getting out of hand. I can also understand that a comment or statement can be aggravating, but you're a little out of line with the personal attachment. Please keep this in check, alright? You are the original founder of Age of War, but you are, like everyone else, subject to rules, including myself.
BLENDERCAT: Well this should be a no brainer. Majority of us have expressed distaste for him about this and there's still an active thread about his banning. He is curious, but he is also nosey about it. He, I feel, is the he's still (although he won't admit it) is still holding a grudge against Naked Crook for his own behavior on TNO. I feel that his remark: "Here's some advice- pay no attention to NC. Unless it's important." is the spark for this. In my opinion, he blew his last chance with this. In addition, his creepy remarks about watching Ammy is just wrong, being playful or not.
NAKED CROOK: Now this where I feel the opinions will differ, but I'll do my best to stay objective and present only the facts. Many of you feel he's holding grudges, and I've never known him to do so, ever. I've personally found him to be fair. That's a big word to a lot of us it seems, but here's the definition: "free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice". In other words, that means weighing all options and picking one that feels the most appropriate to the situation, the GOOD and the BAD and still being unbiased. So now there's a difference between being a realist and being fair. Relating to the thread above, he was being realistic, but in addition, it's a fair assumption. At the time, assault is a crime. He wasn't wrong in his opinion nor overbearing. However, I feel there are some faults involved too, the first one is that he's got a slight narcissistic side. He's an admin of a fairly popular website, a game modder, coder, etc., a web designer and coder, and manages school and a daytime job. In some sense, he's accomplished and has a right to be, however, last night was not the right time for it with the statement "BC...everything I say is important". In addition, his next shout showed that he said some of the members want Blender gone. Which is, again, uncalled for.
MIDNA (again): This is to outline her behavior in the actual argument. First is the sudden spontaneity of swearing. She is one of the reasons I enabled the censor. She started to swear for no reason at all and additionally attacking both Naked Crook and later, Cubanpete who was only being the middle ground.
ZEKE (again): It is by this point that Zeke should have banned both Naked Crook and Midna from the shoutbox but didn't, and this is where I have the big problem.
MIDNA: Her behavior becomes tamed whenever Zeke says something, however, this isn't right. She should always behave herself instead of listening to one person like she's a personal servant.
Z64: Now I'm including Z, because my name got brought up. I want to again, point out that Naked Crook does not have immunity. He may be one of my favorites, but he's just as equal as anyone else here. It might be true that I will get upset, but I tend to keep a logical mindset when listening to someone who has evidence of why.
From here, the conversation calms down however, the dialogue between Naked Crook and Midna starts to show a little bit of bonding, but in a twisted point of view. They simply express their opinions of each other as civilized adults. The conversation is ended with Z saying "cease fire".
Now what's my opinion on this? I'm still very angry I wake up to see this. However, Blender's statement should be the last straw and I feel Midna should have some serious repercussions. As for Naked Crook, this is his first serious matter (and I'm counting the thread too). I feel he too should be punished with a few days out of the shoutbox. But I'll let everyone express their opinions now and what should happen to the parties involved.
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